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Minutes for HB2138 - Committee on Education

Short Title

Creating the career technical education credential and transition incentive for employment success act to provide additional state aid to certain school districts for students who obtain career technical education credentials.

Minutes Content for Thu, Feb 9, 2023

Chairman Thomas opened the hearing on HB2138.

Jason Long, Revisor, gave a summary of the bill. (Attachment 1)

Heather Morgan, Kansas Association of Community College Trustees, gave a history of the Career Technical Education (CTE) program that was codified in SB155. Each year there are credentials identified by the Secretary of Labor, KBOR, and others, that are seen to be high demand in the state. These are shown on the second and third page of her testimony.  (Attachment 2)

There were questions and answers for Ms. Morgan.

Clelia McCrory, ESSDACK, was the originator of this bill with the support of Representative Murphy. She wants to help kids onboard to their first job. She has lived this process personally. She started at Sterling College in 1974, washing dishes and then was able to get a certificate to be a Certified Nurse Aide. In 1979 she graduated from Sterling College, with only $800 because she had her CNA. She told the story of Charlie, who has been on SSI for 6 years, and three weeks ago he finished the book work on the forklift credential and he got a job. Today he starts at $22 an hour.  He texted her a photo of his first pay check.  He is proud and she is very proud of him. Clelia strongly urged that in Kansas we need this bill for both the kids that take the KBOR programs but also for high school kids while they have learning supports in place. There are too many kids who don't make the jump from high school to a good starting job. She urged the Committee to support HB2138(Attachment 3)

There were questions and answers with Ms. McCrory.

As part of Ms. McCrory's testimony, she arranged for teachers, students and administrators from small towns in Western Kansas to join the Committee via WEBEX:

Mike Cargill, Stafford, spoke from his small school and noted that over the last nine years they have produced 33 Certified Nursing Assistants (CNA) most of whom are working in the local area. Many of the CNAs have gone on to become nurses, as well as two students who have become doctors and one who is a veterinarian. Local manufacturing plants need PLC coding. In the past year Stafford High School has produced two students who got jobs to do PLC coding. 

Jennifer Wieberg, teacher in Deerfield, had a couple of students appear with her. She introduced Audrey Musel, a senior, who earned her Early Childhood license when she was a junior and her DNA as a senior.  She noted presently she is using both licenses, working while going to school to save up for college. Audrey hopes to attend Fort Hays next year. Senior Ingrid Guardia stated she is currently taking dual credit classes. As a junior she earned her CNA and is presently working at a nursing home in Lakin. Ms. Wieberg is the CTE coordinator in this corner of Southwest Kansas. She noted there is a high population her students that do not go on to higher education and they need both high value and industry needed certifications.Out of her eight senior students (it is a small school) they have earned 30 different credentials. 

Mark Calvin, ESSDACK (was online as a consultant, not offering testimony).

Deena Horst, Kansas State Board of Education, stated the Board supports the bill and believes this bill will help students and the communities of Kansas.  (Attachment 4)

John Forrer, Kansas Association of School Board, stated KASB supports this bill as it increases student success.  (Attachment 5)

The Chairman closed the hearing on HB2138.